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	<title>Comments on: Your information. Your choice.</title>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://blog.privcom.gc.ca/index.php/2008/01/08/your-information-your-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 20:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Follow-up: Let&#039;s hope that the data portability movement recognixes that the right or ability of individuals to &#039;port&#039; personal data from one platform to another is not absolute.

I, for one, don&#039;t want my online friends and contacts to &#039;port&#039; *my* online prrfiles and personal data to other platforms, for other purposes and uses, without my informed consent and, if possible control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Follow-up: Let&#8217;s hope that the data portability movement recognixes that the right or ability of individuals to &#8216;port&#8217; personal data from one platform to another is not absolute.</p>
<p>I, for one, don&#8217;t want my online friends and contacts to &#8216;port&#8217; *my* online prrfiles and personal data to other platforms, for other purposes and uses, without my informed consent and, if possible control.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Domain</title>
		<link>http://blog.privcom.gc.ca/index.php/2008/01/08/your-information-your-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-594</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Domain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice initiative and privacy paradigma. After 50 years this will be quite normal, but yet not. governments are adapting slow, also here in the Netherlands</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice initiative and privacy paradigma. After 50 years this will be quite normal, but yet not. governments are adapting slow, also here in the Netherlands</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://blog.privcom.gc.ca/index.php/2008/01/08/your-information-your-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Saunders&#039; Web 2.0 privacy principles are merely a subset of broader and more robust international FIPs developed over a generation ago. They may sound empowering, but they are in fact much weaker than the FIPs which unerpin privacy laws and rights in Canada, including PIPEDA.

One major exception is the idea that individuals &quot;own&quot; their own data. This is a facile concept that reflects a U.S. bias to property rights, and which has little currency just about anywhere else in the world, where (data) privacy is expressed as a right or ability of individuals to exercise *a measure of control* over the collection, use, retetniona nd disclosure of their personal information by others. 

That is, privacy rights should not be confused with property rights. In practice, custody, control and use
of personal information is a shared exercise. . 

A serious consequence of people truly owning their own personal information is that they can too easily cede their ownership rights to others in exchange for access, personalization, a discount, a discount of some sort, personalization --or indeed: for nothing or no good reason at all. 

Just my $0.02</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Saunders&#8217; Web 2.0 privacy principles are merely a subset of broader and more robust international FIPs developed over a generation ago. They may sound empowering, but they are in fact much weaker than the FIPs which unerpin privacy laws and rights in Canada, including PIPEDA.</p>
<p>One major exception is the idea that individuals &#8220;own&#8221; their own data. This is a facile concept that reflects a U.S. bias to property rights, and which has little currency just about anywhere else in the world, where (data) privacy is expressed as a right or ability of individuals to exercise *a measure of control* over the collection, use, retetniona nd disclosure of their personal information by others. </p>
<p>That is, privacy rights should not be confused with property rights. In practice, custody, control and use<br />
of personal information is a shared exercise. . </p>
<p>A serious consequence of people truly owning their own personal information is that they can too easily cede their ownership rights to others in exchange for access, personalization, a discount, a discount of some sort, personalization &#8211;or indeed: for nothing or no good reason at all. </p>
<p>Just my $0.02</p>
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		<title>By: Daphne Guerrero</title>
		<link>http://blog.privcom.gc.ca/index.php/2008/01/08/your-information-your-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>Daphne Guerrero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tyler,
Thanks for your comments. While there isn&#039;t a &quot;privacy blacklist&quot; as such, there is the PIPWatch toolbar which helps Canadian Internet users determine whether website they visit comply with Canadian privacy legislation. (We&#039;ve blogged about it &lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.privcom.gc.ca/index.php/2007/11/23/pipwatch-privacy-technology-for-canadian-internet-users/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;before&lt;/a&gt;.)
As well, the other piece to this puzzle is informed engagement and discussion which people like you are already doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tyler,<br />
Thanks for your comments. While there isn&#8217;t a &#8220;privacy blacklist&#8221; as such, there is the PIPWatch toolbar which helps Canadian Internet users determine whether website they visit comply with Canadian privacy legislation. (We&#8217;ve blogged about it <a href="http://blog.privcom.gc.ca/index.php/2007/11/23/pipwatch-privacy-technology-for-canadian-internet-users/" rel="nofollow">before</a>.)<br />
As well, the other piece to this puzzle is informed engagement and discussion which people like you are already doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://blog.privcom.gc.ca/index.php/2008/01/08/your-information-your-choice/comment-page-1/#comment-588</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 14:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi guys, good article. I&#039;ll be checking out the Dataportability movement to see if it has any legs for the little guys too. 

As you probably know, it can be difficult for a smaller startup site to provide the same tools for user privacy and information  control as the big guys. What gets on my nerves is when the big guys still don&#039;t do anything to help their users control their own data.

A couple of examples:
Flickr - A great site. I love it, however it recently came to light that they do not regard privacy-related complaints/take-down requests as a an &quot;infringement issue,&quot; and require that I take up any issue with another&#039;s photos with the user themself. Sounds like a cop-out to me.With the resources of Yahoo behind them are they not able to devote support time to privacy issues? Or perhaps the problem is jurisdictional (they&#039;re American... now).

Spock.com: Spcck uses a spider to crawl websites specifically for personal information. They then post this collected data together in one place, optimize it for search engines and wait till you google yourself (or get googled) for you to sign up and manage that data. 

Their privacy policy specifically states that they will not go out of their way to remove your data or account from their publicly accessible database. If it&#039;s convenient then they will try to comply, otherwise they may not. Furthermore this data is NOT removed from their archived dataset. All personal information is covered by a transfer/selling clause allowing them to sell the data and/or the company at any time. If it&#039;s in the archives then your information can be sold and used by another company anyway. I see little difference between this policy and the very same policy that gave rise to SPAM (now made illegal by the CAN-SPAM Act).

So, is it &quot;your information&quot;, &quot;your choice?&quot; Not really. They buy and sell it for profit and no matter what you choose to do about it you&#039;re powerless.

Where&#039;s the equivalent of a spammer&#039;s blacklist of companies with a poor privacy record or lack of policy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys, good article. I&#8217;ll be checking out the Dataportability movement to see if it has any legs for the little guys too. </p>
<p>As you probably know, it can be difficult for a smaller startup site to provide the same tools for user privacy and information  control as the big guys. What gets on my nerves is when the big guys still don&#8217;t do anything to help their users control their own data.</p>
<p>A couple of examples:<br />
Flickr &#8211; A great site. I love it, however it recently came to light that they do not regard privacy-related complaints/take-down requests as a an &#8220;infringement issue,&#8221; and require that I take up any issue with another&#8217;s photos with the user themself. Sounds like a cop-out to me.With the resources of Yahoo behind them are they not able to devote support time to privacy issues? Or perhaps the problem is jurisdictional (they&#8217;re American&#8230; now).</p>
<p>Spock.com: Spcck uses a spider to crawl websites specifically for personal information. They then post this collected data together in one place, optimize it for search engines and wait till you google yourself (or get googled) for you to sign up and manage that data. </p>
<p>Their privacy policy specifically states that they will not go out of their way to remove your data or account from their publicly accessible database. If it&#8217;s convenient then they will try to comply, otherwise they may not. Furthermore this data is NOT removed from their archived dataset. All personal information is covered by a transfer/selling clause allowing them to sell the data and/or the company at any time. If it&#8217;s in the archives then your information can be sold and used by another company anyway. I see little difference between this policy and the very same policy that gave rise to SPAM (now made illegal by the CAN-SPAM Act).</p>
<p>So, is it &#8220;your information&#8221;, &#8220;your choice?&#8221; Not really. They buy and sell it for profit and no matter what you choose to do about it you&#8217;re powerless.</p>
<p>Where&#8217;s the equivalent of a spammer&#8217;s blacklist of companies with a poor privacy record or lack of policy?</p>
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